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Interests of transparency.
« on: April 21, 2010, 12:33:36 PM »

People on the boards occasionally break the rules. That's a given.

Members occasionally get banned or reprimanded.

But we as members really don't see any transparency in the banning/moderation process.

I would like to suggest that in the interest of showing that all members are treated fairly that any reprimanded or banned member is named and if relevant the length of ban announced.  A brief reason for the ban or reprimand and how that relates to the Terms and Conditions of the Forum would also probably help assist transparency.

This would allow the membership of the forum to be able to see that everyone is treated equally within the terms and conditions.  It would also name and shame the offening member and hopefully lead to their improving of their self-moderation skills.

I would suggest a locked Sticky thread within the feedback board would be the place for it, with any offences listed for a set period of say 3 to 6 months.

I have moderated many forums myself over the last 10 years and have found this kind of system to be useful, especially in curbing the excesses of repeat offenders.
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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2010, 01:02:58 PM »
I think naming and shaming is very subjective simply because if a PHO Member posts a bad or offensive comment then it can be cancelled out by posting a good or nice comment by the same PHO Member. I like to take the balanced view  :)

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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2010, 01:17:19 PM »
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I think naming and shaming is very subjective simply because if a PHO Member posts a bad or offensive comment then it can be cancelled out by posting a good or nice comment by the same PHO Member. I like to take the balanced view  :)

yes it is, but I have seen this work as a means of encouraging Self-moderation, no-one wants to be shamed in such a manner, and so it can lead to a modicum of thought before posting something against the T&Cs
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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2010, 01:20:07 PM »
I think name and shame would be good because it would stop the speculation if someone disappears for a bit, and all the drama of " Anyone heard from whoever" when lots of people are in touch of Facebook,phone etc.  The silly mind games are a source of irriatation.  Speaking as someone who has been banned - I think the naughty list is a good idea

I don't agree with Nicks point that an offensive or or bad comment can be cancelled out by the member posting a good or nice comment - I like to think that we post what we mean to say or are trying to get across, what is annoying is when people do not agree with a post, not because they don't like what has been written, but because they don't like who wrote it!!

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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2010, 01:44:42 PM »
Dave

The Majority of Bans are issued for Spammers and Advertisers, I don't think your idea would make any difference to those issues and TBH would create unecessary work for us Mods.
If anyone feels the Mods are being unfair they can always talk to the administrator, ie The Singing Detective.

I do think there are issues with naming and shaming though  :-\


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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2010, 06:10:18 PM »
I think it's a great idea. 

Personally, I think the banning process is too subjective, this would give members a chance to see exactly how objective it is   :)
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2010, 07:23:55 PM »
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If anyone feels the Mods are being unfair they can always talk to the administrator, ie The Singing Detective.



Tim




i think its a great idea dave and would also promote self moderation with moderators too with using the ban button

and tim i have to disagree im afraid as i have tried to contact the administrator regarding a mod being unfair but i didnt recieve any reply

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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2010, 07:34:35 PM »
Great idea Dave, I support that 100%

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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2010, 07:53:30 PM »
I really do not wish to be personal here and I think Dave's idea is a good one, but Darren, you really do seem to have a problem with the MOD's and use every opportunity to have a go at them.  Many of us have behaved inappropriately at times, and if you are not happy then you report it - the MOD's are people , just like us with personalities , ideals and opnions - I have to admit that I have been in heated debate with the MOD's at times - but when they are posting - they are themselves - I like to think we are all adult enough to accept that they may make mistakes, like the rest of us.  It's  tough job that I would not want to do.  If you keep on whinging,  people, the MOD's included will take less notice and any argument you have will lack credibilty.
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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2010, 08:05:24 PM »
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I really do not wish to be personal here and I think Dave's idea is a good one, but Darren, you really do seem to have a problem with the MOD's and use every opportunity to have a go at them.  Many of us have behaved inappropriately at times, and if you are not happy then you report it - the MOD's are people , just like us with personalities , ideals and opnions - I have to admit that I have been in heated debate with the MOD's at times - but when they are posting - they are themselves - I like to think we are all adult enough to accept that they may make mistakes, like the rest of us.  It's  tough job that I would not want to do.  If you keep on whinging,  people, the MOD's included will take less notice and any argument you have will lack credibilty.
Joan

and you always have to say something  ::)

am i not allowed to question the validty of claims made ?