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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2010, 08:14:55 PM »
I don't think its a bad idea, but how often does someone get banned :-\ It may be rather quiet?

How about yellow and red cards for the world cup?

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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2010, 08:29:54 PM »
I am not sure how many get banned - maybe that is Dave's point - I was banned once for sending an abusive PM to another member and I have been PM'd for posting inappropriate things.  I think it is the big drama - if someone has been involved in a heated exchange and then they are not around for a bit - If they were named and the reason stated - everyone would have to accept that they broke the T & C 's.  I have to admit that I felt very ashamed and silly when I was banned and it made me think a bit more before I post- even though I still lose it sometimes.

We all know that we communicate in other places about PHO - it would definately take the speculation and rumour away and maybe the need to harness support for the wrong doer - which just creates more problems.  I am not sure if I have expressed what I really mean - but if your in the naughty book and the reason stated - that is the end of it - a bit like detention :)

Loretta - I am being perfectly serious and trying to add value to this debate because I want PHO to be a good place to be - I expressed my opinion to Darren, there is no need to be personal to me - this is exactly what brings things down to an unacceptable level.
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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2010, 08:37:27 PM »
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I want PHO to be a good place to be

and i have stated that several times myself over 4 years and still do ( just some people think or assume other things that are further from the truth )

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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2010, 08:38:39 PM »
Quote from Joan:
"Loretta - I am being perfectly serious and trying to add value to this debate because I want PHO to be a good place to be - I expressed my opinion to Darren, there is no need to be personal to me - this is exactly what brings things down to an unacceptable level."

WTF? Did I miss something? Which bit of Loretta's post was personally direct at you?

Seriously, I'm confused....
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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2010, 08:39:57 PM »
I will PM you - I want this thread to stay on track
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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2010, 08:46:29 PM »
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Quote from Joan:
"Loretta - I am being perfectly serious and trying to add value to this debate because I want PHO to be a good place to be - I expressed my opinion to Darren, there is no need to be personal to me - this is exactly what brings things down to an unacceptable level."

WTF? Did I miss something? Which bit of Loretta's post was personally direct at you?

Seriously, I'm confused....
Daniel.

I suspect it is this bit:

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I respect his opinions, just as I respect those who regularly whine about their mother-in-law - tho I have to say that Darren's posts are more entertaining
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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2010, 08:53:41 PM »
'I respect you but find someone else more entertaining.......' Doesn't seem like snipe of the century to me.  :)
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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2010, 09:48:23 PM »
Darren, Michael has a busy life and is not always able to reply. This is not a paid for forum so cannot supply the levels of moderation/service that a financed one would. There are about 10 of us that supply free moderation which is not 24 Hr and we all do as much as we can but plainly not full time or real time, so sometimes things don't get picked up by us which is why we have a report system. Remember all the Moderation is provided free by people with real lives who are sufferer's just like you and have our good days and bad ones so do not claim to be perfect but you will find us honest.

A list of who is banned may be transparent but I do have concerns over a name and shame method as it is judgemental and we are here to support sufferer's as best we can, not to tell them off when they are naughty.  ::)
We do and have excluded members on occasion but it is seldom and only done after repeated breeches of the rules and several short bans and after discussion among the Mods but obviously there is a limit to how many short bans we will issue, but I repeat it is very few if I try and remember there are less than 20 over the 5 years + since I've been a Mod.

The issue of who is banned and how many etc is not a great one as when you subtract the Blatant spammers and advertisers it is very few. I think the last few I have banned who were not spammers have been ones who are either harassing other members or insulting another member on the boards and that is over a period of a number of weeks but out of over 10,000 members and the 200 or so that visit daily it is a very small percentage. Dave's Idea would not generate many entries.

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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2010, 10:20:51 PM »
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Darren, Michael has a busy life and is not always able to reply. This is not a paid for forum so cannot supply the levels of moderation/service that a financed one would. There are about 10 of us that supply free moderation which is not 24 Hr and we all do as much as we can but plainly not full time or real time, so sometimes things don't get picked up by us which is why we have a report system. Remember all the Moderation is provided free by people with real lives who are sufferer's just like you and have our good days and bad ones so do not claim to be perfect but you will find us honest.



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i can understand that and always have done

how can you say that if you have a complaint to bring it to the administrator if it wont be replied to ? that is my question

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Re: Interests of transparency.
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2010, 10:41:48 PM »
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Darren, Michael has a busy life and is not always able to reply. This is not a paid for forum so cannot supply the levels of moderation/service that a financed one would. There are about 10 of us that supply free moderation which is not 24 Hr and we all do as much as we can but plainly not full time or real time, so sometimes things don't get picked up by us which is why we have a report system. Remember all the Moderation is provided free by people with real lives who are sufferer's just like you and have our good days and bad ones so do not claim to be perfect but you will find us honest.



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i can understand that and always have done

how can you say that if you have a complaint to bring it to the administrator if it wont be replied to ? that is my question

Because that is the option, we are accountable to Michael. It is up to him which things he replies to not me or any of the other Mods.
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