Author Topic: Discrimination?  (Read 6425 times)

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deana_jenkins

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Re: Discrimination?
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2002, 02:45:18 AM »
Thanks for all the info guys and gals! That was all some really useful information. You all are great !
Deana :D

jackgray

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Re: Discrimination?
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2002, 10:22:27 AM »
Dear All

I have lived with P for over 16 years and to date (and fingers crossed) I have never really experienced discrimination in any of my jobs.

I have to say that anyone working in for example the catering industry should wear gloves whether they have P or not.

I have just spoken to someone at the P association and they are going to send me an email with the latest ruling with regard the Armed Forces but they gave me the following info:

The armed forces do not accept people with P on the following basis:

1.      The initial training is intended to be very stressful.  P can be triggered by P.
2.      You have to be posted abroad and as such you might be in situations or countries where you do not have access to the same washing/laundering facilities.
3.      If you have been clear of P for five years they might accept you?  

The P association said that they have fought and won some cases but it is a very difficult one.  They said for example that Acne had only been taken off the armed forces list a year ago.

Discrimination of any kind is abhorrent but I am realist and believe that maybe doing some jobs and having P is not such a good idea.  I do disagree with blatant discrimination against people with P.  Each case should be taken on a case by case basis.

This is a very interesting topic.....


Jackie

jackgray

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Re: Discrimination?
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2002, 01:40:26 PM »
Please find below the extract Extract from the Psoriasis Association Journal September 2002:

"Many of you will remember that the Association was involved two years ago in the issue of entry to the Armed Services if you have psoriasis. Policy did not change much although two of the young people involved were successful on appeal. Recently we were contacted by a member who is interested in working in the Services in a particular career within the Health Services of the Army. We wrote for clarification and an up to date statement – we wanted to check whether or not particular Army careers would be open to people with psoriasis. We received the following reply:

‘The medical standards were last reviewed and revised in November 2000. The current entry with regard to Psoriasis states:

Mild psoriasis does not usually interfere with service life. There is always a risk to severe exacerbation when individuals are put under excessive stress ( whether physical or psychological in nature). For this reason evidence of psoriasis on any part of the body, other than discreet areas only on the elbows and knees is a bar to entry.

Exemption to the bar may be considered when the skin  ,without treatment, has been clear from any episodes of psoriasis for a period of at least five years. This exemption to the bar should only occur with single service liaison and opinion from a Service appointed Consultant Dermatologist.’

The letter goes on to emphasise the point that new recruits need to be of robust constitution and free from disease or injury. Also that flexibility of employment in the event of illness is limited.
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Regards
Jackie

Wendy

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Re: Discrimination?
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2002, 08:30:21 PM »
re:  the army thing.

i think they suck!

i was refused cos it trigged by stress.

when i told them i had it since iwas a baby they told me that i must of been i stressed baby!!! what???? w*$kers!!!

i can run and jump and do all the things others can do!!

it sucks!!

rant rave rant rave!!!!

bye wend

GaryS

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Re: Discrimination?
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2002, 01:47:37 PM »
I am gob-smacked at what I am reading here.

I can understand the need for clear skin where appearance is everything .... model....? airlines.....? porn star.....?

BUT

I cannot believe anyone would discriminate against P in the 21st Century! How many 'unseen' (airborne) diseases exist that we are all subject to day to day? And P isnt even catching!

Education is a wonderful thing!

jackgray

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Re: Discrimination?
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2002, 02:38:45 PM »
Dear All

I do sympathise with anyone who has been discriminated against but you do need guidelines.

I have to throw the spanner in the works here and say that I personally would not want someone who has P at the same severity as my own P to be the chef cooking my Saturday evening meal which I am paying for.  

I know from my own experience and as much as your try not to the skin flakes do get everywhere (who is coming to mine for dinner).  What you do in your own home is down to you but when someone is paying for a service then I would not expect my dinner to be served with seen or even unseen skin flakes.  And no matter what anyone says they do get bloody everywhere.  I know that this is a tough one but just because someone is capable does not make then able!!

As everyone is an individual I reiterate it should be assessed on a case by case basis.

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but I really do believe that there does have to be guidelines in all walks of employment and just because we have P does not mean that we should be exempt from following these!!

Jackie