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Offline steelem

best chart i have found to explain a good diet
« on: February 07, 2012, 09:20:53 PM »
for those dis believers out there who dont think diet is related - take alook at this chat - if your diet is to the left which is probably alot of p sufferers out there then you need to be to the right - let me know your thoughts. this would best explain what i did to control my p - move from the left to the right..


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Offline anja247

Re: best chart i have found to explain a good diet
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 03:19:43 PM »
breast milk??!!  :o

i'm all over the place on that chart...

my diet, after many years of trial and error, now consists of a fairly low carb menu with almost no grains (and very occasionally when i feel an irresistible urge, i stick to spelt). together with some supplements (very few, actually), sls-free soap and a good moisturiser, i'm keeping things flaky well under control (knock on wood).

Offline Dev

Re: best chart i have found to explain a good diet
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 09:23:01 AM »
Without really having looked into the acid/alkaline charts I believe steelm that you could very well be right. I eat lots of food from the right side of the chart. I do eat a few foods that are on the right side of the chart but only in moderation. I do believe that this is how I have managed to keep my p under control.

Offline LittlePinkPuss

Re: best chart i have found to explain a good diet
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 07:35:23 PM »
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I eat lots of food from the right side of the chart. I do believe that this is how I have managed to keep my p under control.

Same here.

I mainly eat from the alkaline side nowadays, and I contribute it to keeping me clear.

This is especially potent when you consider with my bad psoriasis coverage, I was eating a LOT from the acidic side.

Around 80% alkaline and 20% acidic is the recommended balance by the professionals - at the moment I think I am more 90% alkaline.

If I am going to eat from the acidic side, I would choose healthy options (i.e.) I eat several punnets of blueberries a week, and baked potatoes several times a month. I would be avoiding the acidic unhealthy choices of white flour, white sugar and artificial sweeteners.

Canola oil is mainly GMO sourced, so I would avoid that full stop, no matter what side of the chart it was on.

« Last Edit: February 09, 2012, 07:37:48 PM by LittlePinkPuss »
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Offline igH

Re: best chart i have found to explain a good diet
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2012, 10:09:03 AM »
stay away from legumes/beans/grains/cereals/rice/potatoes i.e. high load of lectins in general, go carb free if possible.... >:D

"Common dietary staples such as cereal grains and legumes contain glycoproteins called lectins which have potent antinutritional properties (Table 1) which influence the structure and function of both enterocytes and lymphocytes (Liener, 1986; Pusztai, 1993). Wheat-germ agglutinin derived from dietary wheat products is heat stable and resistant to digestive proteolytic breakdown in both rats (Pusztai et al. 1993a) and human subjects (Brady et al. 1978) and has been recovered intact and biologically active in human faeces (Brady et al. 1978). Wheat-germ agglutinin and lectins in general bind surface glycans on gut brush-border epithelial cells causing damage to the base of the villi which includes disarrangement of the cytoskeleton, increased endocytosis and shortening of the microvilli (Liener, 1986; Sjolander et al. 1986; Pusztai, 1993). The structural changes induced by wheat-germ agglutinin on intestinal epithelial cells elicit functional changes including increased permeability (Sjolander et al. 1984) which may facilitate the passage of undegraded dietary antigens into systemic circulation (Pusztai, 1993)."

"Legume and cereal lectins alter the microflora of the gut (Liener, 1986; Banwell et al. 1988; Pusztai et al. 1993b), causing both inflammation (Wilson et al. 1980; Liener, 1986; Pusztai et al. 1993b) and increased intestinal permeability (Greer et al. 1985)"

"Maize, like wheat, can alter intestinal epithelial structure and function (Mehta et al. 1972). The biological activities of cereal lectins are similar because they are closely related to one another both structurally and immunologically (Peumans & Cammue, 1986)."

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Mucosal architecture of the small bowel in cases of psoriasis
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Intestinal permeability in patients with psoriasis
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moreover, re lectins....

"Lectins are carbohydrate binding proteins present in most plants, especially seeds and tubers like cereals, potatoes and beans. It is now well established that many lectins are toxic, inflammatory, resistant to cooking and digestive enzymes and present in much of our food and sometimes cause "food poisoning." The global pattern of varying prevalence of diseases such as coeliac disease, autoimmune diseases, rheumatoid arthritis, obesity, cardiovascular disease and insulin dependant diabetes mellitus, suggests that some dietary factor specific to plant foods could initiate these diseases. Of the food lectins, grain/cereal lectins, dairy lectins and legume lectins are the most common ones associated with aggravation of inflammatory and digestive diseases in the body and improvement of these diseases and/or symptoms when avoided. Recent research has suggested that these lectins may effectively serve as a vehicle allowing foreign proteins to invade our natural gut defenses and cause damage well beyond the gut, commonly in joints, brain, skin and various body glands. With continued exposure of the gut by these toxic food lectins a persistent stimulation of the body’s defense mechanism in a dysfunctional manner occurs, which manifests as an autoimmune disease. If the lectins in diet are causative in initiating all these diseases, it should be possible to identify the responsible constituents and modify or remove them so as to make the diet healthier. Here we present a brief account of lectin toxicity research and show how these proteins have become the focus of intense interest for biologists."

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Offline scratchydude

Re: best chart i have found to explain a good diet
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2012, 10:13:22 AM »
Thanks for the links IgH!!
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Offline igH

Re: best chart i have found to explain a good diet
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2012, 10:14:59 AM »
you're welcome  :)

Gliadin, zonulin and gut permeability: Effects on celiac and non-celiac intestinal mucosa and intestinal cell lines
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The Case Against Gluten: For Everyone
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Offline igH

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2012, 10:17:39 AM »
Rice, Potatoes, Wheat, and Other Plants Interfere with Human Gene Expression
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MicroRNAs: Novel Regulators Involved in the Pathogenesis of Psoriasis?
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Offline farang

Re: best chart i have found to explain a good diet
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2012, 02:16:18 PM »
Many interesting links here!

I have a problem with the alkaline-acidic food groups though.  Where is the scientific basis for saying that some food are 'alkaline' and some food 'acidic' and that the alkaline is best? 

Looking at the table mentioned by steelem, lemons e.g. are mentioned as alkaline food.  Well...everyone knows that lemons are acidic, with a pH perhaps around 1-2 for lemon juice.  It says in the article that 'alkaline food' will produce an alkaline reaction in the small intestine and that's why it is labeled alkaline, not that the food itself is alkaline.  But, I doubt seriously that scientists have been able to measure the pH effect in the small intestine when different kinds of food (in the table) have been ingested.  Well....maybe it has, but I'd like to see some research.

Reading the website's explanations on pH makes an old chemistry teacher fall off the chair   ::)
"pH stands for “percent hydrogen” -  :P
"Salivary pH is interesting, as it relates our emotional pH" -  :o

The body is actually extremely apt in maintaining a more or less constant pH since this is important for many cellular functions. 

What I am saying is not that what food we eat is not important, I believe it is very important for inflammatory diseases such as ps.  However, I would like to know more about how this kind of table was produced before I would use it.


Offline steelem

Re: best chart i have found to explain a good diet
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2012, 03:41:23 PM »
farang i have known for a long time that lemons are alkaline once digested - just takes some reading of books to realise lemons are on the better side obviuosly in small quantities..