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Offline ferritboy

Explaination of why some people may suffer from p... i think..
« on: September 06, 2011, 01:01:38 PM »
It’s known that the digestive system affects the immune system, fact. This is the reason I believe that p can be 100% controlled (and possibly cured) by managing diet and external factors effectively.

So.....

What’s the link between the digestive system and the immune system?
The digestive system is the human bodies way of “keeping us running,” we eat food and our digestive system turns that food into useful chemicals we need to function. Think about how a plant works... They take sunlight in and convert it into useful chemicals for them to grow, the principle is the same. If the digestive system isn’t functioning properly your body isn’t getting the chemicals it needs to defend its self properly from internal and external attack (the immune system).

I believe that the main cause of p is suffering from a faulty digestive system and/or poor liver function. P sufferers put food into their body that for some reason there digestive system can’t seem to handle. The reason for this could be a number of different things, one reason maybe that they suffer from a low level of hydrochloric acid in the stomach or that the acid they produce is not of the correct ph. If this where the case then food would not be digested properly, it’s known that if protein isn’t fully digested bacteria can break down inside the proteins and produce toxic chemicals.
The article below explains this in detail !!!

When protein digestion is incomplete or proteins are poorly absorbed, bacteria can break down the proteins and produce toxic substances. One group of these toxins is called polyamines, which have been found to be higher in people with psoriasis than in the average population. Polyamines contribute to psoriasis by blocking production of cyclic-AMP. Vitamin A and an herb called goldenseal inhibits the formation of polyamines. Since protein digestion begins in the stomach, low levels of hydrochloric acid there can also cause incomplete protein digestion. Digestive enzymes and/or hydrochloric acid supplementation aid protein digestion.

Bowel toxemia plays an important role in psoriasis. A poor balance of intestinal flora due to stress, diet, medications, or other factors often leads to bacterial and fungal infection. In fact, many people with psoriasis have colonization of fungus in their digestive system and on their skin. In a recent study, twenty-one out of thirty-four people with psoriasis were found to have Candida albicans in the spaces between their fingers or toes, and the majority were also affected by fungi from the Tinea family. Other research found a 56 percent increase in nail fungus in people with psoriasis. Another study looked at stool samples of people with psoriasis and other skin disorders. Researchers found a high number of disease producing microbes, predominantly yeasts, in the Colon. This may not be the cause of psoriasis, but rather an indication of poor gut ecology. Treatment for yeast infection Corresponded with a decrease in skin inflammation.

Elimination diets and hypersensitivity testing have also produced profound results. People with psoriasis have high levels of IgE antibodies, which indicate an allergic component. Intestinal dysbiosis predisposes people to food and environmental sensitivities, so people with hypersensitivities need to heal the intestinal lining by taking appropriate bacterial supplements.
Poor liver function may contribute as well. Liver function profile tests and the metabolic screening questionnaire can help you determine liver function, and the metabolic screening questionnaire can also be used to follow your progress. Incorporate a detoxification program with an elimination/ provocation diet to determine which foods may trigger your psoriasis.

Alcohol consumption contributes to psoriasis, since alcohol contains many toxic substances, which stress an overburdened liver. Candida albicans (yeast) thrive when beer and wine are consumed. Even one glass can provoke symptoms. Alcohol also increases intestinal permeability.
The causes and treatment of psoriasis are complex. Successful treatment must encompass several approaches reflecting its complexity. Look for underlying causes and develop a personal program based on your needs.
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My theory is that Bowel toxaemia at any level inhibits the digestion of “transportation” proteins such as Calbindin. Without the appropriate levels of these proteins crucial compounds such as vitamin D, calcium and magnesium can’t make their way around the body. This is why when people with p supplement these vitamins they see improvements..
It seems that p may be caused by a series of knock on affects in the body, starting with a faulty digestive system and ending with red raised flakey skin.... now to fill in the gaps :/
   

     
   
 
 
         

Offline ferritboy

Re: Explaination of why some people may suffer from p... i think..
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 01:05:10 PM »
I am hoping that people with more knowlege than me can point out where i have gone wrong (if i have). Am really keen to no why we suffer in this way!!

Cheers

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Re: Explaination of why some people may suffer from p... i think..
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 05:08:08 PM »
Wow, I think you're 'bang-on'
I am seeing a specialist (a medical doctor, acupunturist, naturopath with 6 years experience of chinese medicine) in London who has mentioned most of these points. Im waiting for improvement after now 3 weeks on a liver detox and elimination of all trigger foods. She said in another 3 weeks or so I should see slight improvement. She said it will get substantially worse while detoxing which it most definately has. The psoriasis has to be drawn out of the body before one can heal. Ive seen many people in the last 20 years but this lady I am the most confident about. Watch the space

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 05:16:40 PM »
some if not a lot of people try these & other supplments with no improvment :cry:

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Re: Explaination of why some people may suffer from p... i think..
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 05:46:25 PM »
Hi spotted girl. i am very interested to know what are you doing to detox your liver? I believe this is what has contributed to my P.
many thanks
josiejo
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Re: Explaination of why some people may suffer from p... i think..
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2011, 06:31:15 PM »
I think the above explanation is more geared to what is happening to our immune system as opposed to what the route cause of p is, so I don't accept that the cause of p is a faulty digestive system, liver function or bowel toxemia although I readily acknowledge that dietary triggers and other factors exacerbate p.

We are often told that p is genetically linked and that p is a consequence of a faulty immune system. We already know that the immune system can be suppressed resulting in a deterioration of p, but the key is how to re-set the immune system.

Current research is pointing toward stem cell use taken from bone marrow (HSCT) and positive results have been seen in MS and diabetic sufferers whereby their immune systems have been 're-set' and their symptoms have disappeared.

Diet is just one of many tools that can help manage p effectively.

Meanwhile, we live in hope !

Edited: 'cos I wanted to avoid the word 'smoothies'  :)

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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 09:31:46 PM »
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Hi spotted girl. i am very interested to know what are you doing to detox your liver? I believe this is what has contributed to my P.
many thanks
josiejo

Hi Josie,
I'd love to tell you, and I most definately will. But I've had my heart broken so many times with failures that maybe its best I wait for success before getting everyones hopes up. Im quietly confident tho :)

Offline ferritboy

Re: Explaination of why some people may suffer from p... i think..
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2011, 11:11:39 AM »
Hi Nicknackwack, thanks for your reply!! :)

You are right, this is more to do with what is happening to the immune system rather than the root cause of p at the moment. We are told by a lot of sources that p is the consequence of a faulty immune system but after carrying out my own research I don’t believe this. I believe that the root cause of p is all to do with the digestive system, if it were because of the immune system why are some people able to 100% control there p with their diet? And why do some children grow out of having p? I understand that the immune system can be suppressed resulting in a deterioration of p but I don’t believe the drugs that do this temporarily cure the problem, I believe they mask the problem potentially causing more problems in the future. One of my theories in simple terms is that the body doesn’t correctly/ totally brake down proteins which ultimately causes cause toxins in the body, these toxins  could possibly make the inner linings of the intestines more permeable (like alcohol) which contributes to even more toxins in the body. The immune system then recognises these toxins in the body and kicks the production of T-cells (the auto-immune response) in to hyper production which are sent all over the body, once the t-cell’s have done their job and caught the toxins where do they go? This is what i am currently working on put I believe there exit strategy is by attacking the skin.

If anybody knows I would appreciate it if you could point out if I have gone wrong to study the section in greater detail.
Please remember this is just my own theory and has no medical credibility what so ever... Am sure people agree that it’s worth trying to work out why we suffer from this condition and a cure... if I ever do I will let you all know!!                    

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Re: Explaination of why some people may suffer from p... i think..
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2011, 11:15:50 AM »
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Wow, I think you're 'bang-on'
I am seeing a specialist (a medical doctor, acupunturist, naturopath with 6 years experience of chinese medicine) in London who has mentioned most of these points. Im waiting for improvement after now 3 weeks on a liver detox and elimination of all trigger foods. She said in another 3 weeks or so I should see slight improvement. She said it will get substantially worse while detoxing which it most definately has. The psoriasis has to be drawn out of the body before one can heal. Ive seen many people in the last 20 years but this lady I am the most confident about. Watch the space

Hi spotted girl, have you tried?

Food and environmental sensitivity testing, IgE and IgGA testing.
Candida testing (either blood or stool).
Liver function profile.
Intestinal permeability testing.
Blood testing for vitamin and mineral status.

I am currently waiting on these test's to help me with my research.

Regards

Offline Panch

Re: Explaination of why some people may suffer from p... i think..
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2011, 12:50:27 PM »
Statistics show that only 2 to 3 percent of the population have P. It is hard to believe that the rest of the population have no problem with the digestive system. No doubt one can improve P by fixing their digestive system. My thinking is that you must have the defective gene first to get P. :) :)