Author Topic: Inclined Bed Therapy (I.B.T.) Experiment Proposal  (Read 54739 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline WheelieC

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 142
  • Member of the UK Psoriasis Help Forum
  • View Gallery
Re: Inclined Bed Therapy (I.B.T.) Experiment Proposal
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2007, 12:13:30 PM »
Andrew, I don't mean to be cynical though I can't help it a bit.   Decades of confidently trumpeted treatments failing to have any effect will do that to you.   I am just teasing out some details, I am in no way trying to rubbish your research or defend any particular bed angle  ???,  as I stated earlier I may well give this a go actually.


I am quite interested in this statement however..

Quote
There is a definite link between weather and P


I've never experienced this, what evidence is this statement based on?







Offline Andrew K Fletcher

Re: Inclined Bed Therapy (I.B.T.) Experiment Proposal
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2007, 06:12:46 PM »
Evidence based on personal interviews with people who have psoriasis, well documented reports to confirm the seasonal connection, and of course a quick google using the word seasonal together with psoriasis will provide you with a huge amount of research into this subject.

Pattern of skin diseases at the National Skin Centre (Singapore) from 1989-1990.Chua-Ty G, Goh CL, Koh SL.
National Skin Centre, Singapore.

At the National Skin Centre, 74,589 new attendances were seen from 1989 to 1990. The M:F ratio was 1:1. The majority of the patients belonged to the 20-39 year age groups (40%). Frequencies of psoriasis (20.4%) and alopecia (17.2%) were higher among Indians; exfoliative dermatitis was higher among Malays (19.72%); and insect bites were higher among Chinese (87%) [P less than 0.05] compared with ethnic distribution (9.9%, 7.6%, and 77.2% respectively) of NSC patient population. Dermatitis (34.2%) and acne (10.9%) were the most common skin disorders seen. The more common dermatoses seen in 1989/90 differ slightly from those reported in 1950s and 1980s; however, the frequencies of contact dermatitis, fungal infection, and insect bite reactions of 5.8%, 10.9%, and 7.6%, respectively, in 1980 have decreased to 4.7%, 5.4%, and 2.3%, respectively, in 1989/90. There was no seasonal variation in the frequency of various dermatoses except for psoriasis, which was more prevalent during the first quarters of 1989 and 1990. Our results showed that the pattern of skin diseases in Singapore is slowly approximating that of developed countries. The changes in the pattern of skin diseases are probably due to improved economic status, better education and hygiene, ready availability of dermatology services, as well as changes in occupational and environmental contactants over the last decade.

But I guess this should suffice as proof?

I've never experienced this, what evidence is this statement based on?







[/quote]
« Last Edit: June 28, 2007, 06:14:25 PM by Andrew K Fletcher »

Offline elgrande

  • Forum God
  • ******
  • Posts: 1570
  • Gender: Male
  • Psoriasis - The final frontier!
  • View Gallery
Re: Inclined Bed Therapy (I.B.T.) Experiment Proposal
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2007, 08:45:13 PM »

As someone who keeps an open mind, I find this interesting. You (Andrew) have clearly dedicated many many hours of you own time into researching this area and I must commend both your dedication and enthusiasm. The World is defiantly in short supply of people like yourself. I think it would be great if a few people decided to give this a try. My own condition is behaving quite well at the moment but it’s something I would certainly consider. I have a couple of questions if that’s ok:

1. Has anyone reported any side affects? It sounds totally harmless but I thought I'd check anyway.

2. What are your credentials Andrew? You clearly have a good command of research writing but would you mind telling us a bit about your background?

3. If someone did clear from trying this would they have to continue to sleep in this position to maintain the results? In other words, would this be a life long treatment?

Thanks and keep up the good work!

 
Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast

Offline Andrew K Fletcher

Re: Inclined Bed Therapy (I.B.T.) Experiment Proposal
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2007, 10:52:18 PM »
I am not a doctor. My background is in mechanical engineering. I am also an Inventor and enjoy stripping things down and putting them back together so that I understand the subject completely. Even at times to disassemble metaphorically in order to gain an understanding. I enjoy solving practical problems and think sideways rather than the normal blinkered full steam ahead. In doing so, I have been researching this fascinating subject since 1994 when I first discovered how gravity influences fluids in trees, going on to apply the same non-living physical force to the way the body functions. Compiling a theory, applying the method to a whole range of illnesses, particularly neurological conditions and proving beyond any shadow of a doubt that the theory is based on a sound simple repeatable paradigm.

Along the way, several people with psoriasis have reported substantial improvements; A former nurse and now a good friend of the family visits my home on a regular basis and is virtually free of psoriatic arthritis. Furthermore, she was featured in Woman’s realm Magazine. If this were one case, I would also have believed it to be an insignificant coincidence. But several others have reported huge improvements in psoriasis.

As for side effects, my wife and I and many others have slept on an incline for many years. In our case since 1994, with no apparent side effects and some astonishing benefits.

It is however very important to have no pressure on the feet, as this compresses the bottom of the foot and the spinal cord and is counterproductive.
Some old pilot study results were put in a google group’s thread in order to preserve them, they can be found here:

The theory establishes that horizontal / flat bedrest is detrimental to the skin and in fact the whole body is shown to respond when flat bedrest is avoided, so I guess when you sleep inclined and realise the benefits the question why on earth would one want to go back to a flat bed may arise.

If you are disappointed that I am not a doctor, ask yourself what doctor would dare to question established literature.

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

andagain

  • Guest
Re: Inclined Bed Therapy (I.B.T.) Experiment Proposal
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2007, 05:28:36 AM »
This is a good read Andrew. I have come across this before but for another condition. Acid reflux/leaky Oesophagus but here it the mechanics of keeping stomach acid away from the oesophagus. May give this a go as i have both conditions albeit very mild.

Anyone tried from here yet?

Offline corrine

Re: Inclined Bed Therapy (I.B.T.) Experiment Proposal
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2007, 01:57:27 PM »
Hello just been reading through, sounds very interesting and as a mother to a ten year old with p. would certainlly consider trying this as there are no chemicals involved just a simple question.
my daughter suffers from gut p. and is about 80% covered at moment do you think this would work on gut p.?
look forward to hearing from you....
Corrine and Jimmie(my princess)
"when you saw only one set of footprints, it was then that i carried you"

Offline Andrew K Fletcher

Re: Inclined Bed Therapy (I.B.T.) Experiment Proposal
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2007, 04:51:12 PM »
Hi

I am hoping you will be able to tell the group whether this works with your daughter, the best way forward is to give this a try and as you point out there are no chemicals involved.

But please please take photographs of affected areas so that everyone can see the evidence for themselves as and when it happens. The only thing I will say so as not to bias anyones results. "what does anyone have to lose by giving this a try to see if it works for them? I suspect you and your daughter will not be disappointed.

Andrew

Offline corrine

Re: Inclined Bed Therapy (I.B.T.) Experiment Proposal
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2007, 06:04:38 PM »
ok got nothing to lose im going to try it ill post some pictures on a post on monday and start Jimmie on monday night......this could be ..actually im not quite sure what this could be........
corrine and Jimmie(my princess) ???
"when you saw only one set of footprints, it was then that i carried you"

Offline Andrew K Fletcher

Re: Inclined Bed Therapy (I.B.T.) Experiment Proposal
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2007, 09:29:10 PM »
Thanks

Best way forward is to begin a thread of your own entitled inclined Bed Therapy Diary so it can be tracked and progress does not become scattered in other posts.

This is a slow process so don't expect to go to bed and wake up cured, this is not the way this therapy works. Expect to see some changes within 4 weeks. and certainly a general progress during the first four months.
I anticipate also that some of the people who try this will experience some benefits from day one.

Andrew

Offline stewart_h

  • Is it true that if you don't use it, you lose it ?
  • Forum God
  • ******
  • *
  • Posts: 2242
  • Gender: Male
  • View Gallery
Re: Inclined Bed Therapy (I.B.T.) Experiment Proposal
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2007, 09:25:34 PM »


is there an actual bed (a fashionable one) that does this ? Seeing as i need to buy a new bed i thought i ask.

Also if psoriasis was from bad circulation then wouldnt drugs people take (or herbs) improve their condition? i have ever heard this being the case