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Offline jwn

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Questions on lauryl sulphates
« on: October 08, 2011, 12:31:52 PM »
Hello newbie (James) here. I've had mild psoriasis for about 15 years now, aged 44. I really should have joined up to the forum before now, not sure why I didn't but here I am now.  :)

I'm relatively lucky compared to most I think. I get it worst on my hands, especially around the finger joints. There may be an exczematic link on the hands, and I did have that as a child, but everyone who looks at it says psoriasis is the main thing. I only have a few long-term, persistent small body plaques.

I've had every ointment and cream prescription under the sun and was on Acitretin for a while, a couple of years back, with zero effect. Now the people at the NHS derma clinic want to put me back on a systemic but I don't like the sound of the one they mentioned, it being an anti-cancer drug that could need weekly injections Sorry, forget the name.

They've tried PUVA on the hands a couple of times but had to stop the treatment after I got a rash on the back of the hands from the PUVA drug I had to soak my hands with prior to the twice-weekly treatment. I've just been for allergy patch testing and came back with a complete blank there. I do have a high alcohol intake, which they are now picking up on and saying "binge drinking" can cause flare-ups. Can't say I notice it makes any difference how much I drink but I am trying to bring down that intake. My bloods previously showed a vitamin D deficiency and they put me on some tablets but they ran out many months ago and they've dodged the topic since and I've not forced the issue.

It's almost as if the hands do what they want, regardless of what treatment I use. I do know stress from work makes it worse, as does anything like travelling where you're constantly lifting bags and making cuts worse on the hands. I use Haelan tape or Duoderm dressings to cover up any sore bits or cuts and I have to carry a little batch of pre-cut slips with me almost wherever I go.

I also have a "it-comes-and-goes" line tracing the bottom of the scalp, and behind the ears. When it's active like now, I get quite a few flakes coming down and it's pretty itchy, red and can be raw. I've been switching between using Capasal and Dermax for the last few years with no real change in how often it flares up.

I've seen the advice elsewhere in the scalp threads to avoid sodium lauryl sulphate and wanted to try that with the rosemary oil mix for the scalp and maybe bjmac's vitamin D regime too, as a general measure.

My question is, should I move away from Capasal and Dermax? I'm not sure if they're SLS-free or not. I note that Capasal has triethanolamine lauryl sulphate in it; is this the same as sodium LS or related to it?

Dermax lists sodium lauryl ether sulphate in it so I think it's safe to assume I should try dropping this for a bit if I want to be SLS-free?

I'm due a visit to the clinic on Tuesday. I think I will tell them I plan to try some more herbal-style remedies and further alcohol reduction for the next few months and that they can forget about putting me back on systemics. Ill also hammer them about the vitamin D.

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Re: Questions on lauryl sulphates
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 11:41:33 PM »
Hey James,

Fellow newbie here too, I just joined yesterday. Sounds like the drug they wanted to put you on was Methotrexate or MTX. I've never had P so bad that it required me to have systemics, but getting weekly injections doesn't sound great at all.

I've been doing some reading this morning on triethanolamine lauryl sulphate and it is also used in shampoos. It also looks like it still does cause skin irritation based on some clinical studies that had been done. I would probably look at dropping any product that has any derivative of lauryl sulphate in it, just to be sure.

I've had success in reducing scalp p by not drinking as much as I used to, but then If I have a bender of a weekend it will definitely start to flare up again.

Hope this info helps.

Cheers,

Tom
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Offline LittlePinkPuss

Re: Questions on lauryl sulphates
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 10:17:43 PM »
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My question is, should I move away from Capasal and Dermax? I'm not sure if they're SLS-free or not.

I have no idea if Capasal and Dermax contain SLS or not.

From the sound of them, I am sure they would contain much worse things to worry about!!!  :D

SLS is mainly found in cosmetics (i.e.) soaps, face cleansers, moisturisers, shampoos, conditioners, toothpastes, washing powders, makeup, etc...

I avoid all SLS products, even my toothpaste is SLS free.

I only use natural plant oils to cleanse and moisturise. I did this when I had P patches and I do it now.

A good rule of thumb to try and stick by is: "if you can't safely eat it, then don't put it on your skin".

Around 60% - 80% of what you put into your skin is absorbed into your body - causing all sorts of health issues down the line - so it is basic common sense to avoid chemical and toxins in skincare products.

I use food grade things like:

Cold pressed 100% pure organic avocado oil - you can eat this
Cold pressed 100% pure organic sweet almond oil - you can eat this
Cold pressed 100% pure organic wheatgerm oil - you can eat this
Cold pressed 100% pure organic coconut oil - you can eat this
Cold pressed 100% pure organic hemp oil - you can eat this

Cold pressed 100% pure organic rosehip oil - you can't eat this
Cold pressed 100% pure organic jojoba oil - you can't eat this

I suggest buying a book called The Chemical Maze by Bill Statham. It is a pocket sized book that you can take to the supermarket with you, and will help you make sense of ingredients in skin care products. I have had mine since 2001 and since reading it, I have stopped using all chemical products.

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Offline Vladex

Re: Questions on lauryl sulphates
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 06:34:34 PM »
I use and make my own SLS free shampoo and soaps . It feels good even though not much lather but I don't mind it