Author Topic: The Relation between Separation Conflicts & Skin Disorders  (Read 1244 times)

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Offline Vladex

Re: The Relation between Separation Conflicts & Skin Disorders
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2011, 04:41:04 PM »
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I'll buy that stress has a very significant role to play in my psoriasis.  I'll even buy that it's long term stressful situations that are significant.  However I'm not convinced that it's stress that relates to separation that is the key. 

If I look at when my psoriasis appeared I can hand on heart say that it was a very stressful period.  In the past decade I can also see that when I am very stressed and not sleeping well etc the P gets worse.  However the stress does not always related to separation.

Maybe it's the body's way of separating you from the world and getting your things in order

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Re: The Relation between Separation Conflicts & Skin Disorders
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2011, 09:01:12 PM »
I'm sorry but I'm going to agree with Nick ( unlikely as it seems ) the guy is a nut  :-\

If you google him and look at his history it will confirm it.
His criminal record
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Hamer violated German, French, and Austrian laws on numerous occasions and was convicted several times in different countries; he served prison times twice, for at least 3 years.

In 1986, Hamer wass sentenced to a fine of 3,000 DM (1,500 Euro) for treating patients without a license. Case file number: 34 Js 85/86 district court of Cologne.
On January 22, 1992 he was sentenced in Cologne to 6 months suspended, again for treating patients without a license. Hamer appealed and on February 12, 1993, the sentence was reduced to 4 months (case 105-99/92). He had tried to cure a young man from bone-cancer by simply applying a cast, so the leg had to be amputated later. (case file numbers: 613 Ls 152/91 and 34 Js 232/89 StA Köln)
On July 27, 1993, Hamer was sentenced to 6 months suspended for defamation in Austria. (district court of Graz).
The parents of Olivia Pilhar were sentenced to 8 months suspended.[10] Hamer could not be prosecuted in the Olivia Pilhar case because he had fled Austria in the meantime.
In 1997, Hamer was arrested in Cologne and, on September 9, 1997, was sentenced to 19 months by the district court of Cologne. He served 12 months in jail in Cologne. Hamer once more was convicted for treating cancer patients without a license. He was sued by several parents of patients having died after a cure with New Medicine. Case file number: 34 Js 178/95 Amtsgericht Köln, and a psychiatric expert opinion attested a psycopathic personality with delusional persuasions, as recorded by the witness Leuzinger.
In 2001, Hamer was sentenced in absence to three years in prison in France after having been sued by French parents of cancer patients who died after treatment with New Medicine in France. An international arrest warrant was issued and Hamer was arrested in Spain in September 2004 and extradited to France. He served the time in France, was released on February 16, 2006 and returned to Spain.
Currently (2007) he is accused of incitement of hatred against a minority of the population (article 130 of German criminal laws) by prosecutor Robinek in Cottbus/Germany, as Hamer made many public anti-semitic statements in open letters and web pages and commented upon an alleged international Jewish conspiracy. Case file number: 1653 Js 2797 / 06.
There is also a private court case pending, with a substantial amount of damages asked, because Hamer advised a patient against chemotherapy.


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This struck me as particularly odd

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Hamer purports that his method is a "Germanic" alternative to mainstream clinical medicine which he claims is part of a Jewish conspiracy to decimate non-Jews. In this Hamer follows the antisemitic "Neue Deutsche Heilkunde" propagated in Nazi Germany. More precisely he asserts that chemotherapy and morphine are used to "mass murder" the western civilisation, while such treatment is not used in Israel where nearly no people die of cancer, according to him.[8][9][14] Hamer also believes that the denial of recognition of his theories and the revocation of his practitioner's licence is due to a Jewish conspiracy.

Quote from a Wikki with refs but do look for yourself.

The fact he has been prosecuted lends him no credibility but shows sense on the authorities behalf IMHO, as a child was not treated properly for a cancer by parents following his "Method" which as a parent myself I find horrifying. It is one thing to follow a theory for yourself but to choose it for a child...

The child died   >:(


As regards the proposed idea of separation stress being The cause of so much like all sweeping statements is suspect from the start, as we know from our own experiences of P it is not that simple and describing the symptoms of things like eczema being a positive thing is as daft as it sounds and could only have been written by a non sufferer. At best it could be stated that separation crisis stress can  or could be one of the stress related triggers for P and other diseases but lets face it most of us could work that out with a few moments thought or reading here.

I do think differing mental states inc stress produce differing blood chemistry which our immune systems pick up on and could be one of the paths that produce a reaction like P along with the better known triggers like strepp infections but to lay so much at the door of separation stress is ill thought out in the light of our own experiences here as we know some develop P with no apparent stress related issues.
For myself the stress was generated by other issues and had nothing to do with separation stress.
That is my personal opinion.

Speaking as a Mod I do think that before extolling the virtues of a theory it is best to do more research not only into the theory but also the person presenting it.
I would hate for someone to come to some harm or refuse needed treatment because of a theory they found on this Forum.

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Re: The Relation between Separation Conflicts & Skin Disorders
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2011, 11:17:35 PM »
Agree with Nick and Tim, utter garbage.

This has appeared on PHO before.
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