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Offline babyblue

Re: vitamin d/ibuprofen treatment
« Reply #4550 on: September 11, 2010, 09:01:59 AM »
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Agreed Bjm,

You can't beat the collaborative effort. If only docs/derms had the time/inclination to hook into this. That's be a world of pain removed for so many.

As a scientist I don't accept everything I read in the literature (especially newspapers) but I do read it and think about it. Feynman is a good source for why most scientist's are lazy and a bit rubbish and can't see the wood for the trees (definitely the case with psoriasis). That said your links are always worth reading - I just wish I could read more than the extracts at pubmed....

FWIW my regime is based on Vit. D (this appears to have had the most impact but only since alkalizing the body); alakalizing the body (this also appear very much to have helped) and tending to a non-inflammatory pro-Omega 3 diet (also helpful).

My regime (in order of what I think has helped):
- Vit D: 1000 IU daily with  a week off here and there (pretty sure it helps non-scalp skin). Open to trying more in the winter should P worsen.
- Steam room: 15+ minutes post-showering (once a week summer - 3 times a week winter). Sweat out the toxins. Skin patches brush off easily. Apply olive oil over limbs after drying. wrt olive oil: if you wouldn't eat don't put it on your skin.
- Washing: Avoid soap/shampoo with Sodium Laureate Sulphate or such-like. This had an instant (as in within days) impact.
Avoid (this is very much personal): Tomatoes, dairy, beer, coffee and limit black tea in that order. Have considered giving up wheat but impact of the rest of this list makes me go: Nah.
- Smoothies: Apple, carrot, beetroot and celery smoothies (weekly in summer; bi-daily in winter). Nutritious + anti-inflammatory + alkalizing affect on body.
- Gimchee: Irregular but at least weekly. This is home made Korean fermeted cabbage/cucumber/etc. not too different from German Saurkraut I guess. This is possibly my yoghurt substitute.
- Fish (usually sardines): Approximately three times a week with dinner plus (soft-gel) omega 3 1g capsule after lunch.
- Exercise: 2x30 mins cycle 5 times a week.
- Drinks: Large glass of water with half squeezed lemon on waking. Mineral water - approx 2L a day. Alakalizing.
- Magnesium: 100mg Mg Citrate daily plus plenty of good food sources (home-ground flax seed etc.). Works with Vit D. Also has alakalizing effect on body.
- Other food: Am Irish so have replaced the humble spud with sweet potatoe, rice, buckwheat and millet to good effect.
- Multi-vit: Centrum Performance 3-4 times a week
- Meat: Much more chicken. Much less beef and pork. Same amount of lamb. No processed meats/fish.
- Lecithin: Teaspoon with breakfast. Supposed to help absorb fats but suspect it's irrlevant. Alkalizing.
- IBU: None yet.

hth someone,
Steve



Well done to you Wexford .... and Wexford the home o' the best spuds in Ireland too ... !

Glad you're doing well on this regime, I'm gonna copy and leave on my pc - I do similarily but am not quite as strict as you so perhaps therein lies the key.

Thanks bj for your many many advices, you're worth your weight in gold !!

Hugs
BB
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.  - Herm Albright

Offline bjm

Re: vitamin d/ibuprofen treatment
« Reply #4551 on: September 11, 2010, 01:35:56 PM »
thanks BB.. but its not about me..i am in this fix too and in a daily battle of control like the rest

again here's the general recipe... there are other effective variations like anita's,steves, arts ,totoro's, and others...if food is a source of inflammation  i do not  think its what we eat but how we react to it  and thats something we can change...i have been living on hot dogs and cheetos  for a week..along with my homemade yogurt and apples daily...and not a flair, which suggests, if the GI is healthy, not inflammed..then we can eat like we once could as kids....  not that we want to... ;D..just a little experiment..

here's the recipe..

1000-2000iu of vitamin D, with a meal
a small multivitamin  (to fill any gaps)
200-500mcg of b12 if over 50-55
400mcg folic acid if in the sun or uvb/uva/nbuvb light

one 200mg ibuprofen in the evening, two 200mg  for shorter duration if there is flairing  Remember not for those trying to get pregnant, pregnant or people with asthma especially children

some sun, light, uvb/uva , tanning  or narrowband can really help to jump start things

1-2 cups/day of homemade yogurt, perhaps more if its commercial yogurt

and/or.....50-200mg enteric coated peppermint oil 2-3 times a day and/or peppermint altoids randomly..about 15/day


optional ..fish or flax oil and selenium

a moderate diet...go lighter on gluten, bread, tomatoes, legumes, beans peanuts until the yogurt appears to help.....one week to a month...

bj




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Offline bjm

Re: vitamin d/ibuprofen treatment
« Reply #4552 on: September 11, 2010, 02:09:03 PM »
Here's one microbiologists view on lactobacillus in yogurt...and it suggests homeostasis.. ..makes it difficult to change things in the GI tract...which is why i believe homemade yogurt may be more effective as its much more potent with presumably more microbes by volume
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" Put in simple terms, homeostasis is the force in nature by which, although everything changes, everything stays the same . Homeostasis of bacterial communities is represented by a steady state that is generated by the organisms themselves. Competition for nutrients and space, the inhibition of one group by the metabolic products of another group, and predation and parasitism all contribute to the regulation of populations in particular proportions, one to the other'

'Because all of the ecological niches are filled in a regulated bacterial community, it is extremely difficult for allochthonous (formed in another place) microbes, accidentally or intentionally introduced into an ecosystem, to establish themselves. This phenomenon is referred to as "competitive exclusion" (2). The newly introduced bacteria have no way of earning their living in the ecosystem, since all possible niches have been filled. The composition of the human gut microbiota, as shown by the examination of fecal samples, has a remarkable stability"

In other words..like a game of musical chairs, its difficult to find a place for our new microbes to grow as all the musical chairs have been taken..even if some of the established microbes are inflammatory (a hypothetical focal point in our case)...I would guess, that more lactobacillus ie, homemade yogurt, an effective type..ie l bulgarius, or others  and a better prebionic diet, ie my pectin filled apple,   to promote them would be a target.


bj
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Offline farang

Re: vitamin d/ibuprofen treatment
« Reply #4553 on: September 11, 2010, 03:55:47 PM »
I started the 'BJ' treatment a couple of years ago, and it worked fine.  I have to admit though, that the ps has crept back....

I have now increased the ibu to 400 mg in the evening, and it seems to work better.  It also seems selenium is rather important for me to reduce inflammation.

Regarding probiotics, I have tried Lactobacillus and others, but there are actually several kinds of micro organisms to 'choose' from.  What about Saccharomyces boulardii - does anybody know?  It is a fungus, not bacterium, but it is supposedly good for you. 

And yoghurt...I like it.  Just a bit worried that milk products can induce a flare up...?



Offline OrbitaL

Re: vitamin d/ibuprofen treatment
« Reply #4554 on: September 11, 2010, 10:05:19 PM »
The itch has begun!

I am really hoping this is a good sign, and yesterday some of the p on my arms was lookin flat and faded, seems to have flared up and down all day which is weird....fingers crossed.

Offline purple phish

Re: vitamin d/ibuprofen treatment
« Reply #4555 on: September 11, 2010, 10:59:41 PM »
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The itch has begun!

woohoo let's party! :D
I try and take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once.

Offline AnitaG

Re: vitamin d/ibuprofen treatment
« Reply #4556 on: September 11, 2010, 11:18:59 PM »
Flat and itching is a good sign Orbital :D  fingers crossed for you!  If the itching gets too bad, split up the dosage of Vit D and keep moisturising! 
You can't walk on water if you don't get out of the boat....

Offline OrbitaL

Re: vitamin d/ibuprofen treatment
« Reply #4557 on: September 11, 2010, 11:48:32 PM »
It is quite weird, one hour it looks like it is nearly gone, the next it has raised up again a bit and looks redder, I really hope this works for me.

Offline LittlePinkPuss

Re: vitamin d/ibuprofen treatment
« Reply #4558 on: September 12, 2010, 12:01:23 AM »
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And yoghurt...I like it.  Just a bit worried that milk products can induce a flare up...?

Cows milk products can induce a flare in many P people - including me.

You could try experimenting with goat, sheep or soy yoghurt instead.

Homemade sauerkraut and raw dandelion leaves are both good for gut flora, if thats what you want the yoghurt for.



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MadCat
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Offline LittlePinkPuss

Re: vitamin d/ibuprofen treatment
« Reply #4559 on: September 12, 2010, 12:23:17 AM »
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- Gimchee: Irregular but at least weekly. This is home made Korean fermeted cabbage/cucumber/etc. not too different from German Saurkraut I guess. This is possibly my yoghurt substitute.
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Please could you share your recipe and method for the Gimchee.

Thank you
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