vitamin d/ibuprofen treatment

[bjm]

Hi Art...i know what you mean...its like jumping off a cliff to see  if you can fly... but you will have get a better idea of whats going on....

i'd lower it and get some light.. early uva...just to see what'll happen

for those with redness, i think they might get more white flaking, that will be shallow and easily covered with lotion or baby oil...and with more light or sun  it'll get finer break up much like coggs experience.. and the hyperpigmented spots will lighten..

in your case with no inflammation...you might not get the dusty flaking which seems to come from the red areas..again like coggs....and just the hyperpigmentation will lighten...i don't know for certain...

hi Avadoro...well i don't think many of us have IBS.. but something is going on in the gut..maybe the lectin thing, maybe a feedback from general inflammation, i know for some like me food sensitivities...and the peppermint helps...no doubt about it..even the altoids work. and ilm anxious for some good sun to see the effects of menthol in the skin.

bj

[avadoro]

hi Avadoro...well i don't think many of us have IBS.. but something is going on in the gut..

I do

but symptoms disapear after PUVA treatment.

There are two scenarios

stress--->cortisol ( after few minutes ) level goes up--->gut perturbations--->gut absorption of calcium and fats disorders

morning high cortisol level due to adrenal function--->gut perturbations--->gut absorption of calcium and fats disorders

ps when you are stressed sometimes have stomach ache and/or diarrhea --- that is how cortisol works - in minutes ....
What if this process is latent but absorption is disrupted ?
When your gut / bowel are blocked with food beeing digested or when you do not drink too much water - you may have no diarrhea .... 

maybe that's a key ?

ps nice blog anyway  we could exchange our links

[Chappers_27]

Hi BJ
Changed my username to something more manageable.. (was luapnampahc)!

Thought I'd say I have done my Vit D test yesterday. I am sending it back to the US today. Should be VERY interesting to see what level I am at.

On a separate note, Ive only been doing this Vit D thing for a week. I take about 2,500 (35 ug) IU daily plus the multivitamin and the calcium.

After a week Im seeing scalp is better and behind ears (still). But rest of body the same - but less scaling and less flakey. Still quite red though. I took a 5,000 iu gel tablet yesterday but I think the gel tabs make me ill, I felt sick all day with a headache. Which wasnt good as I went to my son's assembly at his school.

So I am sticking with about 3,000 iu daily but the hard white tablets.

Question - after what period of time should I see typically see results??? How long should I give it on a certain daily dose of Vit D before I think about upping it?

Chappers...

[Chappers_27]

Hi BJ

Have completed my Vit D test yesterday and am sending it off for the results today. I dont expect my Vit D level to be very high. I hide my psoriasis and that means no sun on the skin. I've been taking 3,000 iu per day for a week (early days) with calcium and a multivit. I don't take the ibuprofen. The hard white Vit D tablets work better for me. Yesterday I tried a 5,000 iu tablet (gel tabs) and I felt sick all day with a really bad headache. However, the skin is 'drier', more flexible and much less flaking.

Can I ask - after what length of time should one see results?

Paul

[Chappers_27]

Hi BJ
Changed my username to something more manageable.. (was luapnampahc)!

Thought I'd say I have done my Vit D test yesterday. I am sending it back to the US today. Should be VERY interesting to see what level I am at.

On a separate note, Ive only been doing this Vit D thing for a week. I take about 2,500 (35 ug) IU daily plus the multivitamin and the calcium.

After a week Im seeing scalp is better and behind ears (still). But rest of body the same - but less scaling and less flakey. Still quite red though. I took a 5,000 iu gel tablet yesterday but I think the gel tabs make me ill, I felt sick all day with a headache. Which wasnt good as I went to my son's assembly at his school.

So I am sticking with about 3,000 iu daily but the hard white tablets.

Question - after what period of time should I see typically see results??? How long should I give it on a certain daily dose of Vit D before I think about upping it?

Chappers...

[bjm]

hi chaps...i don't know if what you are taking is going to help with the P or to what degree

the additional D and calcium will have a good effect for your general health, moods and bone density, They will help in controlling one part of the inflammation or immune response,  but as far as the psoriasis i don't know as i think the other ingredients are important also.. I think any single CAM option is like one digit in a phone number...perhaps important but not enough by itself to make a connection or in our case have an effect on psoriasis....i think when we go this route, it'll take a combination of things to get some control.

let me continue in a sec with the formula..

[avadoro]

Good job !!

Bj I hope you will use this probiotic bacteria, that might give longer lasting effect in gut than peppermint.
i have started them today ( shock dose of 16 billions in one dose 30 minutes after cottage chesese breakfast )
I will describe effects on my thread, in a week or two should know effects. Maybe this gut thing is more common then we could imagine ?
if you decide one day , give me a note ...

ps. 80% of substances ( for instance IL-10 main antyinflammatory cytokine ) that play role in our  immune system are created in gut region. You may also read some publications about immunomodulation using probiotics bacteria . So you may increase or decrease levels of some cytokines. During our life we kill a lot of them by eating or drinking improper things. For instance acid environment is important to keep viruses out of gastric system etc. There are a lot of publications connected to this subject.

regards

[bjm]

hi chaps...i don't know if what you are taking is going to help with the P or to what degree

the additional D and calcium will have a good effect for your general health, moods and bone density, They will help in controlling one part of the inflammation or immune response,  but as far as the psoriasis i don't know as i think the other ingredients are important also.. I think any single CAM option is like one digit in a phone number...perhaps important but not enough by itself to make a connection or in our case have an effect on psoriasis....i think when we go this route, it'll take a combination of things to get some control.

if i was going "light" i would take 1500iu of d, sun, a small multi , enteric coated peppermint oil before meals or altoids and the one ibu.and skip the ibu with remission.

its kind of like how many ingredients of a cake recipe do i need for it to taste like a cake?..i don't know...

We know sun is a big help and does many things, adequate D is healthy and an immune modulator, many in the uk are low in selenium,the menthol in peppermint has a definite effect, the one ibu as an anti inflammatory, the folic acid in cell repair, b12 etc  each may help with this puzzle in some small way...

so heres the formula ...i don't know what parts alone  will show improvement..for me, i take it all and its takes about a month to a month an a half to get some obvious improvement...some sooner,  others not at all
here is the spring summer edition..

half of a multivitamin or none if you eat well
Vitamin D, 1000iu -2000iu (25-50mcg)  vitamin D with meals
100-500mcg B12
200mcg Folic acid
100-200mcg selenium
one 200mg ibuprofen preferably in the evening
50mg-200mg enteric coated peppermint oil a half hour to an hour before meals
Or peppermint altoids...two before and after every meal and between meals.
500mg calcium with magnesium if a woman

and if moderate to severe
2-3 1000mg fish oil or
2 1000mg flax oil

a modest diet...low fat , low sugar and less or no gluten,wheat or flour and fewer high lectin foods (wheat, beans tomato and sauce, potatoes and for some corn or dairy.....at least reduce frequency (not on consecutive days) and volume.....take care of any infections..gum disease, sinus etc..

For some,  lectins, gluten, dairy..or the diet in general  are not an issue..but if flairs continue and there are no obvious infections..then the diet and resulting inflammation in the small intestine are probably the source..the peppermint will help with this... as well as some simple diet changes for the short run anyway.  If you get some remission, this is less of a problem and you can again eat a a wider vareity of foods.

if possible and very important, ,  get some sun or light...uva, uvb, tanning booth or good old sol...

bj

[avadoro]

Unsterstood

bye

[bjm]

Hi avadoro.
i do agree, with the importance of the gut, probiotics etc..i eat them in yogurt but i do think a good diet should be sufficient...The peppermint has other effects, but its something each has to experiment with... You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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