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Offline Vladex

Why diets have no effect on skin conditions for better or worse
« on: December 22, 2011, 03:38:28 PM »
Living beings develop from 3 germ layers in stages and these germ layers are connected throughout life and can not cross into one another.

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The ectoderm forms: the central nervous system, the lens of the eye, cranial and sensory, the ganglia and nerves, pigment cells, head connective tissues, the epidermis, hair, and mammary glands.

The mesoderm forms: skeletal muscle, the skeleton, the dermis of skin, connective tissue, the urogenital system, the heart, blood (lymph cells), the kidney, and the spleen

The endoderm forms: the stomach, the colon, the liver, the pancreas, the urinary bladder, the lining of the urethra, the epithelial parts of trachea, the lungs, the pharynx, the thyroid, the parathyroid, and the intestines.



Thus we can deduce that any skin issues can only arise due to connections within its own germ layer Ectoderm.
As anyone has ever suspected, psoriasis and other skin issues are solely connected with the brain and nervous system.
Foods, dieting and digestion system can't cross the germ layers and can't affect the skin one way or the other
« Last Edit: December 22, 2011, 03:44:57 PM by Vladex »

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Re: Why diets have no effect on skin conditions for better or worse
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2011, 03:45:03 PM »
If Wikipedia says so then it must be true ;D
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Re: Why diets have no effect on skin conditions for better or worse
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 04:42:32 PM »
Vladex, have you heard of "the blood"? The blood is what connects these germ layers you talk about. Inflammatory cytokines secreted by T cells in the Payer's patches of the gut wall, as a reaction to some foods, can be transported to the skin and affect skin there. So it is not impossible that diet influences psoriasis.

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Re: Why diets have no effect on skin conditions for better or worse
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2011, 06:07:19 PM »
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Re: Why diets have no effect on skin conditions for better or worse
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2011, 07:21:06 PM »
it is interesting......I have alot of issues with the pagano diet!!
Also after a discussion with my nurse about diets, her response was that if this condition was solved with diet alone then thats what they would be helping us with not taking risks with drugs with major side affects!!

but on the other hand...

a good diet is good for all health aspects, I feel loads better just by eating better.....maybe the good attitude from that is a big help!!

Offline Jay

Re: Why diets have no effect on skin conditions for better or worse
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2011, 10:05:54 PM »
I've never met a conventional doctor that considered diet in any depth, they're far more likely to go for medical responses.

Personally, my psoriasis, whilst each major flare is initially triggered by stress, responds significantly to diet. And I'd rather that than be plastered in stinky, carcinogenic coal tar, which was the conventional offer  ::)

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Re: Why diets have no effect on skin conditions for better or worse
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2011, 10:38:13 PM »
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I have removed two posts on this thread already and it was only started this afternoon. PHO is here to discuss ALL aspects of Psoriasis and we are aware that discussions on the alternative board can become heated.

When it descends in to personal attack then it has crossed the line. If you have an issue with something that is posted then hit "report to moderators" and do not take it upon yourself to attack the poster and spout what is and isn't allowed to be posted on this forum.

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Still at least you didn't remove my post althought I'm sure you were tempted:-)

Offline H.A.M

Re: Why diets have no effect on skin conditions for better or worse
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2011, 12:53:22 AM »
You could very well be right about this but then again how would you explain that Charles managed to improve great deal from his diet and exercise program
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To be honest I'm not 100% convinced that diet will make things better so I've decided to try it out for my self.  It's worth a shot atleast. I just need to prepare some stuff first. I'll post how it goes once I've been on the diet long enough. Keep in mind though, I have seborrheic dermatitis and not psoriasis but they're both a skin condition with very similair symptoms.

P.S I'd love to hear your thoughts on the video so if you've got some time to reply it'll be greatly apreciated.

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Re: Why diets have no effect on skin conditions for better or worse
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2011, 01:27:07 AM »
I wholeheartedly know MY psoriasis is related to my digestive/autoimmune system, I am and have been a heavy drinker for quite a long time, have always been very healthy though and it's only this year suffered from allergies big time, psoriasis and general tiredness and after alot of internet research think i'm probably suffering from enzyme deficiency caused by excessive alcohol, i know if i lay off the drink and eat lots of veg and cut out red meat and saturated fats i do feels loads better also taking maximum strength enzyme replacement therapy, probably need to talk this through with a doctor but it's very hard, also know so many of you struggle with psoriasis through no fault of your own when i know mine is brought on by self indlugence & neglect of myself it's hard to ask for help as i know i'm my own worst enemy, probably this is my last post may have been the most honest ive been in 20 yrs. something obviously started me drinking but that as they sayis another story!

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Re: Why diets have no effect on skin conditions for better or worse
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2011, 08:37:40 AM »
Nikki, if you take that view almost everything doctors treat is self-inflicted by poor diet, stressful lifestyles, too much drinking, not enough exercise......It's called being human in 21st century.

You deserve as much help as the next person, get yourself to the docs {{{hugs}}}

(and we're here for the rest of the story if/when you want to tell it :-) )
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